Organic Church, Should the Traditional Church Change?

These videos i am posting in my blog today is about Simple Church or Organic Church.

I think this is a Wonderful and amazing thing.

Acts Chapter 2 Vrs 42-47 (ESV)

The Fellowship of the Believers


42 And a they devoted themselves to the apostles'  teaching and the  fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. 43 And awe came upon every soul, and many wonders and signs were being done through the apostles. 44 And all who believed were together and had all things in common. 45 And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. 46 And day by day, attending the temple together and i breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, 47 praising God and k having favor with all the people. And the Lord  added to their number  day by day those who  were being saved.









This next video is about a book i will be reading soon by Frank Viola and George Barna called Pagan Christianity? Exploring the roots of our Church Practices. (it is a spoof video lol)

Another Great Message From Unleash 2009

I just finished up watching the second session of Unleash 2009 tonight.

It was one for the Pastors and Leaders of the church.

But as usual their is a message for the Church in it.

And he says that we should let the Pastor know that we have their backs and that we believe in them.

A Pastors job is difficult, and the stage lights are always on them 24/7.

So here is the video, i hope and pray that it blesses you and Honors God 100 precent.

Remember there is a worship service at the start, but if want to skip go on right ahead.

God bless

Peace and Love

The Church needs to change

I watched a really good video sermon tonight by Perry Noble, he talked about how the church needs to change.

We as the church are holding alot to western traditions in the church, which go back to pagan traditions and we have evolved those practices into the modern and pre-modern church culture.

You can read about in a Book Called Pagan Christianity by Frank Viola

But here is the video sermon by Perry noble at this years Unleash Gathering, there is worship at the start..but if you want to fast forward, the sermon starts around 28mins.

Enjoy

Peace and Love

my God what is it that you want me to do for you? where is my life going?

I need to better grasp the word of God and my realtionship with God...i enjoy being a member of this extended family, being a christian is amazing, but it is not easy...there is so many different theologys out there that it blows my mind....i read the word of God for myself to understand this Faith in Christ for myself...i love my church and i love to work with the Unchurched, it is exciting!! Christ is central to my life and sharing his Love with all is my goal...The Gospel is to be spoken to all, and all need the Salvation, i Pray God will use me for his Will and Purpose to lead others to Salvation through Chirst Jesus.

I am reading alot about Church Planting at the moment

And i am praying for God to lead through the Door, and that Door is the purpose for my life, and that purpose is for Gods Glory of him.

I dont know what he wants me to do.

But i am Praying for him to humble me
Also to teach me compassion, Self Control etc

But i need to understand his word....because my understandings of Doctrine and theology is out of wack!

It is all up in the air....i just need to put my hands up in the air and grab hold of it and not let go....

my God what is it that you want me to do for you? where is my life going?

Help me understand

Lets Love the UnChurched with a Universal Love as Christ has a Universal Love.

For a time long christians have made Jesus into a fashion idol or a private club where a select view can join.



Shane Claibourne spoke in a intresting article called "What If Jesus Meant All That Stuff?"

He spoke about how christians have a twisted view of Christ.

And that he asks for forgiveness for the attuides of the churched generation.

Dan Kimball in his book "They like Jesus but not the Church" he talks about the UnChurched generation, and how they Love the Person Jesus but they hate the Church and the way WE get on.

I can agree fully with the UnChurched views, because i think just like them.

I love what Jesus did for people

I love the Compassion he had for Samaritans and for the Gentiles and even the Jews!

It was Equal....It was a Universal Love...a Universal Forgivness..

The Church has been busy pushing their legalistic ideas on people who dont even understand what the heck most off it is about.

Baptism
Sacarments
Tithing
Clothing
Theology
Doctrine
Bible Versions
Prayers
etc....

I know their all part of the bible, well not really clothing and bible versions.

But Jesus when he came to the earth came to set us free from all this.

And i believe the church has gone full circle again, we have become pharisees.

The Unchurched dont want to be churched because the church is messed up!

We force Hell down their throats all the time.

Dont do this because you will go to hell.

Dont touch this because it will make you unclean and then make you sin.

Jesus doesnt want us to fear all that we come across, and in turn he doesnt want us to put the fear off hell into peoples lives.

That is why i cant stand Street preachers....on that soap box with signs everywhere, TURN OR BURN!

It is just plain Fear Mongering!

This isnt the way we are susposed to witness...

We are to Witness by our very lives....

Like Jesus

Live as Jesus

Practice like Jesus

Read like Jesus

Pray Like Jesus

Love like Jesus loved, because Jesus is love.

And by his love he died and set us free from sin.

And by his Love we can come to his Father, and dwell in his Temple.

Should we force our beliefs on the UnChurched.....NO!

WE Embrace in Love and show them the Real Jesus and the Real Church....The Kingdom of God

Lets bring the Kingdom down to Earth....With Love, Respect and Compassion for the UnChurched.



Sorry for my Ranting but Come on....We need to wake up

Here is a Great link below


http://www.esquire.com/features/best-and-brightest-2009/shane-claiborne-1209

Rob bell interview and also he talks about Drops like stars.

Hi i will write up a new blog tomorrow or wednesday evening.

Here is a great interview with Rob bell

He talks about Mars hill, his faith and his new book Drops likes Stars

I really recommend this book

Peace

Part 1


Part 2

Becoming a Follower of a God who is about the here and now

I used to always study and read and listen and watch everything to do with the Second coming of Christ.

I used to always watch the news about signs and wars and death, waiting for his rapture.

I used to always look towards those who set dates for Christs return.

Then one day i relized that sitting about and waiting, isnt the answer.

God calls us to watch but not to sit.

He calls us to tend the nets, feed the sheep, help the sick the poor the needy.

I also came to relize through my own study of the word that there isnt a rapture of the church.

And that struck me hard, but the truth hurts.

So i came to relize that we know the future is already in place.

But it is what we do NOW that is important.

We are told not to worry about tomorrow, because God has it under control.

He wants us to focus on today, this minute this second.

He wants us to get our, my, her, his heads out of the sky.

He wants us to remember that he is God.

And that everything in our lives is under his control, and that we have only got to put our faith in him.

Live is short, but we got live it for him, we got to serve him.

And we to live out that great Mission he has put before us.

Go forth and make disciples off all nations.

Forget about tomorrow, but dont forget about today and what you can do to better Gods Kingdom on Earth.

Here is a couple of videos by Rob bell, he explains it so well...

Its called Trees (there is subs but in spanish)

Part 1


Part 2


Also here is a great way to show the Kingdom of God...I have already joined up...and i hope you will to?



God bless

Peace

My Favourite Christmas Tv Advert

Ok Christmas is just round the corner and i thought for a change instead of my usual blogs that i would post up my favourite Christmas Tv Advert. So enjoy and i hope to hear from you.

I love Coke a Cola

God bless

God Predestines Some For Heaven and Some For Hell? My thoughts on this intresting topic

I recently heard that Calvinist believe that God Predestines Some For Heaven and Some For Hell!

"In Calvinism, men must be predestined and effectually called (regenerated/born again) unto faith by God before they will even wish to believe or wish to be justified."

Here is a quote from the Westminister Confession of Faith.

"God from all eternity did by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass; yet so as thereby neither is God the author of sin; nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures, nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.



By the decree of God, for the manifestation of his glory, some men and angels are predestinated unto everlasting life, and others foreordained to everlasting death.


As God hath appointed the elect unto glory, so hath He, by the eternal and most free purpose of His will, foreordained all the means thereunto. Wherefore, they who are elected . . . are effectually called unto faith in Christ by His Spirit working in due season, are justified, adopted, sanctified, and kept by His power. through faith, unto salvation. Neither are any other redeemed by Christ, effectually called, justified, adopted, sanctified, and saved, but the elect only.


The rest of mankind God was pleased, according to the unsearchable counsel of His own will, whereby He extendeth or withholdeth mercy, as He pleaseth, for the glory of His Sovereign power over His creatures, to pass by; and to ordain them to dishonour and wrath for their sin, to the praise of His glorious justice. (Chap. III — Articles I, III, VI and VII) "
 
 
This view is called also called Double predestination
 
Here is the way Wikipedia explains it:
 
"Calvinistic predestination is sometimes referred to as "double predestination."[2] This is the view that God chose who would go to heaven, and who to hell, and that his decision is infallibly to come to pass. This point of view simultaneously denies that God is the Author of Evil, but the issue is a very difficult point of the doctrine of predestination. The difference between elect and reprobate is not in themselves, all being equally unworthy, but in God's sovereign decision to show mercy to some, to save some and not others. It is called double predestination because it holds that God chose both whom to save and whom to damn, as opposed to single predestination which contends that though he chose whom to save, he did not choose whom to damn."
 
 
Those last two lines "as opposed to single predestination which contends that though he chose whom to save, he did not choose whom to damn", is what i would hold to to.
 
I believe yes God has predestined Our lives but he leaves it open for all to freely choose, and it is in our own will to make that move to follow him.
 
These View that God wills some to heaven and the rest to Hell, is on the verge of being called Heresy, and the sad fact is that alot of Christians Believe that this is true.
 
In some ways this belief is mad.
 
To say that God wills some to heaven and others to Hell is for starters Favourtism, you could say that God favors some for the glory of Heaven and Hates the rest and turns his back and lets the rest go to Hell?
 
That was harsh.......
 
Im not implying he turns his back on anyone, i Believe he is a Loving God, he does be angry, but that is agasint sin, and he hates when we rebel agasint what is best for us, And that is the Love of God, and Total Forgiveness of Sin, that his Son Jesus Christ bleed and Died for on the Cross.
 
I want to finish this post off with this wee thought...
 
If God did Will Some for Heaven and Some For Hell (i dont believe for a second he did by the way) but if he did, would that not make God out to be the author of evil as well?
 
I dont think so!! God is Pure Love, Pure God, He is Perfect and Blameless with no inperfection!
 
God bless you and Peace
 
Deu 32:4 The Rock, his work is perfect; For all his ways are justice: A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, Just and right is he.
 
2Sa 22:31 As for God, his way is perfect: The word of Jehovah is tried; He is a shield unto all them that take refuge in him.
 
Deu 32:4 "The LORD is your mighty defender, perfect and just in all his ways; Your God is faithful and true; he does what is right and fair.
 
Heb 2:10 It was only right that God, who creates and preserves all things, should make Jesus perfect through suffering, in order to bring many children to share his glory. For Jesus is the one who leads them to salvation.
 
Heb 12:23 You have come to the joyful gathering of God's first-born, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, who is the judge of all people, and to the spirits of good people made perfect.
 
1Jn 4:12 No one has ever seen God, but if we love one another, God lives in union with us, and his love is made perfect in us.
 
Deu 32:4 He is a rock. What he does is perfect. All his ways are fair. He is a faithful God, who does no wrong. He is honorable and reliable.